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County Bibliography books
Quote from historicalpursuits on May 6, 2019, 11:49 pmI'm waiting delivery of my Zotero for Genealogy book on Wednesday, (thanks for shipping so fast Donna), but I'm thinking about my plan for usage. Those county bibliography books, so popular from the 1876 to the early 1900s and again in preparation for the Bicentennial - I'm thinking make one master source for the book itself, and then use Book Section to make sources for each specific bibliographic reference I need to cite.
Liking how well Zotero seems to pull in data from HathiTrust, but there seems to be some things a bit off on this one. What suggestions do you have? I've got the report attached.
Here's what the "full-note" bibliographic reference shows up as, which looks pretty good, but seems to fall a bit short of EE expectations:
Atchison County Mail. Biographical History. Atchison County, Missouri. Rock Port.: Atchison County Mail, 1905. https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/100735098.Also, I tried to save the pdf for pg 86 William Buckham bio, as noted on the attachments in the report, but I can't figure out how to access that within Zotero. It looks like it was saved in a "network location" when I look in my file explorer? Does that mean I ONLY can get to that when I'm on the web?
Thanks for any advice.
Janet Harder
I'm waiting delivery of my Zotero for Genealogy book on Wednesday, (thanks for shipping so fast Donna), but I'm thinking about my plan for usage. Those county bibliography books, so popular from the 1876 to the early 1900s and again in preparation for the Bicentennial - I'm thinking make one master source for the book itself, and then use Book Section to make sources for each specific bibliographic reference I need to cite.
Liking how well Zotero seems to pull in data from HathiTrust, but there seems to be some things a bit off on this one. What suggestions do you have? I've got the report attached.
Here's what the "full-note" bibliographic reference shows up as, which looks pretty good, but seems to fall a bit short of EE expectations:
Also, I tried to save the pdf for pg 86 William Buckham bio, as noted on the attachments in the report, but I can't figure out how to access that within Zotero. It looks like it was saved in a "network location" when I look in my file explorer? Does that mean I ONLY can get to that when I'm on the web?
Thanks for any advice.
Janet Harder
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Quote from Donna Cox Baker on May 11, 2019, 1:32 amThanks, Janet. I hope your book is there and offering some value by now. I agree that you might want to do one book to cover a large set. You can treat the volume details as citation details when you are creating footnotes. In a case like this, I'd create individual notes under the book that contain details I extracted from the volumes, and make sure the volume information is in the note. If the information for the different volumes changes -- new publisher or location -- you might want to create them as separate books, though.
On the Zotero Connector and Hathi Trust...glad to hear it's working. I don't think I every tried it there. What comes out of any database will depend on how the metadata has been keyed in by the database owner and the setup of whatever citation style you're using. If you're using CMOS, it's not always going to mesh with EE, unfortunately. Hopefully the EE chapter in the book will give you some ideas for how to work around that.
I am hearing that many are opting for CMOS as the style of choice now, rather than EE, because of the difficulty finding any software that can handle EE with ease. Some publishers will make that decision for us, one way or the other, I suppose. I like to consult EE, even as I create a CMOS record. Dr. Mills encourages a really high standard, and we can always add more than CMOS requires, picking up things EE includes. EE also has some types of citations that have been left out of other tools. In those cases, I find the closest match and make sure I have the information, even if it doesn't have the perfect syntax.
Let me know how it's going!
Donna
And to our other forum members, I encourage you to take a look at Janet's blog at:
https://historicalpursuits.wordpress.com/
Welcome!
Thanks, Janet. I hope your book is there and offering some value by now. I agree that you might want to do one book to cover a large set. You can treat the volume details as citation details when you are creating footnotes. In a case like this, I'd create individual notes under the book that contain details I extracted from the volumes, and make sure the volume information is in the note. If the information for the different volumes changes -- new publisher or location -- you might want to create them as separate books, though.
On the Zotero Connector and Hathi Trust...glad to hear it's working. I don't think I every tried it there. What comes out of any database will depend on how the metadata has been keyed in by the database owner and the setup of whatever citation style you're using. If you're using CMOS, it's not always going to mesh with EE, unfortunately. Hopefully the EE chapter in the book will give you some ideas for how to work around that.
I am hearing that many are opting for CMOS as the style of choice now, rather than EE, because of the difficulty finding any software that can handle EE with ease. Some publishers will make that decision for us, one way or the other, I suppose. I like to consult EE, even as I create a CMOS record. Dr. Mills encourages a really high standard, and we can always add more than CMOS requires, picking up things EE includes. EE also has some types of citations that have been left out of other tools. In those cases, I find the closest match and make sure I have the information, even if it doesn't have the perfect syntax.
Let me know how it's going!
Donna
And to our other forum members, I encourage you to take a look at Janet's blog at:
https://historicalpursuits.wordpress.com/
Welcome!